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Sagem MY G5 Cellphone Specifications
| General | Network | GSM 900 / GSM 1800 |
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| Announced | 2002 | |
| Status | Available | |
| Size | Dimensions | 105 x 46 x 20 mm, 77 cc |
| Weight | 92 g | |
| Display | Type | CSTN, 256 colors |
| Size | 101 x 80 pixels, 8 lines | |
| - Softkeys - 3D animated icons - 50 icons (17 downloadable) |
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| Ringtones | Type | Polyphonic (16 channels) |
| Customization | Download | |
| Vibration | Yes | |
| - New formats: BMP, JPEG, PNG, GIF, Midi, iMelody, Wave | ||
| Memory | Phonebook | 300 |
| Call records | 10 dialed, 10 received, 10 missed calls | |
| Card slot | No | |
| - 100 short messages | ||
| Data | GPRS | Yes |
| HSCSD | No | |
| EDGE | No | |
| 3G | No | |
| WLAN | No | |
| Bluetooth | No | |
| Infrared port | Yes | |
| USB | ||
| Features | Messaging | SMS, EMS, MMS (MY G5m only) |
| Browser | WAP 1.2 | |
| Clock | Yes | |
| Alarm | Yes | |
| Games | Yes | |
| Colors | ||
| Camera | No | |
| - Java - T9 - Built-in handsfree - Calculator - Currency converter - Interchangeable front and back covers |
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| Battery | Standard battery, Li-Ion | |
| Stand-by | 240 h | |
| Talk time | 4 h |
Sagem MY G5 Review
anthony Hello Schnulli,
ExEn games you download over the service provider's (in this case orange uk) Games portal. you connect to orange games by pressing and holding the 9 key on the handset. to the best of my knowledge, the orange games portal infrastracture is supplied by In-fusio, which as you probably know is the company behind the ExEn technology. remember that ExEn is already BASED on JAVA itself, but is simply a GAME API (meaning the ExEn chip inside the phone is built specifically for games), and that this same ExEn chip is also fully compatible with the Java J2me GAME API. this means it will recognise and run "real" Java games too m8.
standard Java games i presume would be downloaded over a WAP connection where you would download the jar and jad files that make up a java game directly onto your handset's memory space (over 400kb available on the MYG5 phone), and the game can then be played due to the ExEn chip being able to "recognise and run" these files because of full compliance with the standards set out in the Java J2ME MIDP 2.0 GAME API, as i mentioned earlier.
the software that you refer to is helpful if the game cannot be downloaded via WAP, and must first be downloaded to your PC and then uploaded to your phone. you are right, there is no specific software for that purpose yet (as far as i am aware), but as i mentioned the download to PC >> upload to phone method is not the only way to get "real" Java games m8. i do not know if sagem plan to bring out a software for the the other method, but really m8 i bought the phone to play ExEn games such as Crash Bandicoot, Kung-Fu Legend and Mission 3D, games which have superior graphics and sound than "real" Java games due to the fact that ExEn is a technology built SPECIFICALLY for gaming. it's rather like the difference between playing games on a PC which is designed to run many different apllications (not specialised), and a PlayStation2 which is designed SPECIFICALLY to play games. normal Jva phones have a genberic chip inside them (a jack of all trades Java J2me MIDP VM), whilst the MYG5 has the Gaming specific ExEn v2 chip which is specifically ENHANCED to substantially improve the levels and capabilities of mobile phone games. the difference is immediately noticeable although for not all genres. where this varies being that the difference in quality between a PC game and a PlayStation2 game is not as noticeable as the difference between a normal Java phone's games and an ExEn phone's games. this is becasue with a PC, you can constantly uprage vital cogs such as graphics crads etc. with a normal Java phone you are stuck with the VM that comes inside the phone at the manufacturing stage (ie. INFERIOR for GAMING, but can run many different apps.) the bottom line is ExEn phones are superior for GAMES, that is the botom line. there will be more "normal" Java games available like the "masses" of free ones you mention, but m8 i prefer (lots of quality + good level of quantity) over (massive quantity + perhaps only some quality). and i know that if ever i want the massive quantity apporoach it is still freely available to me whenever i want it, but i will not go that route in any case because whenever i want to get a standard java game, it will be from the likes of Sega, Namco, THQ etc, companies who produce truly quality games. as you may have now noticed, i am interested in a higher level of mobile gaming than what you might have had in mind with the "masses" of games that you referred to. when i want Java games, i will get them from the pro's, albeit even if it is at a small cost. which is why i keep going on about how people will buy for their own specific wants and needs.
ExEn games are initially cheaper than standard Java games, but the cost evens itself out due to the fact that in ExEn games, you continue to spend minor amounts via sms transactions in-built into games, such as 10p towards purchasing things like extra levels, extra weapons etc as you advance in the game.
it's all the same to me m8, only difference being that i know that i have the choice of either option whenever i want it.
caroline ive had this phone for 2 years now ahh embarrasin i no. but its time to say bye now i think. it has given me no trouble for the time and ive had it and for its time it was quite a good phone with lots of features considering it was only £50.
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jack you should be able to get different ringtones
WoT Games are saved on phone hardware, I think they are saved on FLASH memory, if you remove the SIM card, and then remove the battery, games are still there, FLASH memory does not need power to maintain its data.
RuDy thats nbot new though and 8310 is going to get old because more and more phones are going colour
jim is the my-x5 better than the myg5?
Boris @carlo:
we need some downloadable games!!!! please
anthony Schnulli your words are getting easier and easier to misunderstand because you are not writing cohesively any more. you are now making error after error...
First of all, we can agree that both the colour pallette and the graphical processor combine to improve the look of a game, BUT as i said before when it specifically comes to GAMES, without the GRAPHIC ENGINE you will not get more colours in the first place. you are confusing a mobile phone's standard colour displaying capabilities with a specific games console's (GBA) colour pallette, which can only be produced through the GBA's one and only graphics chip. you need to UNDERSTAND that both the ExEn chip and the J2ME VM are NOT the chips that determine a mobile phone's standard colour displaying capabilities. they are both merely JVM's (Java Virtual Machine's, also called VM for short), with ExEn being a Game API all of it's own. a seperate graphics chip within these phones (usually one made by companies like ARM) is actually the one which is in charge of determining just how many colours a phone is limtied to displaying. ExEn and J2me VM are merely JAVA-only chips which will only act/have any effect on JAVA Apps only (ie. Games), whenever those games are uploaded onto the phone, recognised, and run by the chips. for the rest of the time, those 2 chips do absolutely nothing towards how many colours a phone can display. at the same time, if a phone cannot display more than a certain number of colours due to it's inherrent limitations, the ExEn chip can improve this aspect substantially when it comes to playing GAMES as it will recognise and run a JAVA game, and produce a graphical acceleration impact on the game and on the phon'es display. The display of the phone when a game is being run, is essentially in the hands of the ExEn chip. in all other circumstances, the MAIN graphics chip of the phone resumes total control (limiting the phone to 256 colours on MYG5). and meanwhile, the standard Java J2me 1.0 chip which is on ALL current Java phones CANNOT do anything of the sort mentioned above, due to not possesing ANY Games specific API's whatsoever (only MIDP 2.0 has a Game API). i feel that is an issue you need to also understand.
and now... on the issue of the Nokia 7650 and how its got so many colours etc etc., which in your eyes, you implied automatically means that Java games MUST be better or equal in quality to ExEn games, WELL DUH!!! how wrong can a man be Schnulli??? JUST HOW WRONG!! as you and i both know, the 7650 it a far higher-level spec phone than the MYG5 is, and that is reflected in the MASSIVE price difference between the 2 handsets. in normal use (making calls etc), it is a phone capable of displaying far more colours on screen than the MYG5 in normal use (via the same standard graphics chip that i mentioned above, ie. the ARM chip)... so these are 2 inherrently different phones for 2 different market sectors, priced for 2 different wallet sizes. One is very high-spec, the other is mid-level spec at best. so this makes me wonder why you are even comparing such a high-level phone with a mid-level phone?? What you probably do not even realise is that the VM inside the 7650 is still the same old GENERIC Java J2me MIDP 1.0 VM (MINUS any specific Game API like in MIDP 2.0). rememebr that MIDP 1.0 has NO Games API whatsover!!! It is generic!! if you were to stick an ExEn chip inside a phone of such high-spec as the 7650 right now, the difference that one chip alone would make to the graphical GAMING quality of the 7650 is immense. you forget that ExEN (v2, which is inside the MYG5) is already totally superior to even the Game API of J2ME MIDP 2.0 VM (and MIDP 2.0 phones are not even on the market yet!!!!, even though the standards for it have now been decided upon), not to mention the poor quality GENERIC MIDP 1.0 VM which is inside the 7650. An ExEn chip added inside a current standard 7650 would make the graphics of the GAMES look totally UNRECOGNISABLE to what they currently look like. if you think they look "good" at the moment, you haven't really seen anything Schnulli. the MIDP 1.0 VM curently inside the 7650 cannot do even half of the things the ExEn chip is capable of. In terms of mobile gaming, The ExEn chip is 30 times more powerful than the current VM inside the 7650. ExEn is a specific 3D Game API. ie. FAR FAR better than any GENERIC pretender like the J2me VM. so listen, you are totally wrong. you quoted a phone like the 7650 which on it's own (minus any JVM's in action), is already capable of displaying such a high number of colours and you used that as your justification for believing that Java J2me games are of the same or better quality than ExEn games??? LOL please, don't be a silly Schnulli!! try quoting a phone of similar comparison to the MYG5, not one which is already superior by default, such as the 7650. what you should be doing is finding me one which has the same amount of standard colours as the MYG5 (256), and then tell me if the games on those phones which still have the MIDP 1.0 VM inside are even anywhere near as good as the superior graphical prowess of the MYG5 with ExEn v2 inside. the fact is m8: whenever you have 2 phones with the same limitations as each other, the phone with the ExEn chip inside produces FAR superior results in terms of gaming output than the phone with the GENERIC J2me MIDP 1.0 VM inside. That is just the simple and undeniable fact m8! And Do not even try to quote the t300 either because that uses Mophun which is NOT a Java J2me MIDP 1.0 VM, and does not comply with the standards of the J2ME MIDP 2.0 Game API either, and is also nowhere near as popular as Java J2me or ExEn. And ExEn still beats it for quality to top it all off. For your information m8, ExEn is 30 TIMES more powerful than any Java J2me VM, when using the same testing criteria and operating conditions. the difference in quality is embarrassing to say the least... even now, if we take a phone as high-spec as the 7650, although it may have been built by nokia to be capable of displaying more colours than the MYG5 in "normal" circumstances (the 7650 has an ARM graphics chip inside), and to be generally FAR more higher-spec in terms of features than the MYG5, when it then comes to GAMES though, it cannot even do things such as 3D, sprite zooming, sprite flipping / mirroring, scrolling parallax, transparent cells of playfield, screen rotation, ray-casting (Wolfenstein-like) and soft keys, without the aid of another similarly POWERFUL Games-specific graphics accelerator such as WGE, simply because the only thing the 7650 has to work with is the very poor quality GENERIC MIDP 1.0 VM that comes embedded inside it at the manufacturing stage! LOL. that VM is simply not built for gaming, it is a jack of all trades VM and developers have just been scraping by with it m8!! but sure enough, they have already complained loudly about how crap it is for making great games, so why do you think the Java Community Process are now bringing out MIDP 2.0 with a specific Game API included in it this time??? JPC even asked In-fusio for their help and expertise on the matter!! LOL.
Just put an ExEn (v2) chip inside a phone as high-tech as the 7650 and you'll soon see what true graphical GAMING quality is all about. It's just a pity for you, cos really you haven't even seen anything yet m8. ExEn can do ALL of those things mentioned above, and PLENTY more besides! This is the reason why you will not find a similar comparable phone as the MYG5 (in terms of same capabilities, colours, price etc) with as much quality as this when it comes to mobile game-phones.
And another thing is: You are CONSTANTLY mixing up the ExEn service (where you pay a small amount) with the Java J2me service (where you do NOT NECESSARILY pay anything AT ALL whatsoever)... whichever option someone chooses, the phone can accept BOTH kinds of games due to it's DUAL capabilities which it seems i am constantly having to remind you of over and over again.
The way you have structured your words makes it seem as though in your eyes, EVERYTIME you download ANY game onto the MYG5 you MUST pay, EVERY SINGLE TIME for a game regardless of whether it's ExEn or Java J2me? That is NOT true my friend. how many times must i explain this to you m8? The phone accepts ExEn AND Java J2me!!! NOT JUST ExEn!! Whoever wants free J2me games on the MYG5 can still get them! There are plenty of Java J2me games out there as you yourself have already pointed out, and many of them are also freely available for direct download to your phone via a WAP connection. in those circumstances, just as with any "normal" Java J2me phone, you PAY NOTHING m8! ZILCH! NADA! Do you understand this? it ain't too difficult, really!! Only if you make the decision to stick solely to ExEn games will you always pay (and yet the cost is only £1.50 per game for the first half of the game, 50p for every new level, and 10p if you want new weapons etc, THIS IS FREEDOM OF CHOICE! you can download the game and try out the levels to start off with, and once you complete them, YOU then choose if you want more or not. if so, you buy more levels, if not simple: you don't buy any more... and if you do choose to buy more levels all the way to the end of the game: the total cost of the full game is no more than any other Java game out there! that is why the ExEn system WORKS! on vodafone live meanwhile, Java J2ME games cost up to £5.00 per game IMMEDIATELY!! YOU GET NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER WHATSOEVER, IT'S £5.00 UP FRONT MATEY!! the game could be good, but the game could be absolutely AWFUL!!! But You will NEVER KNOW, until you spend your £5.00!! :( LOL! Pity for you.), and everyone is different as i keep mentioning to you, there is no one set rule that everybody must follow which is why it's good to have a choice. The MYG5 gives you that CHOICE! so hopefully you now understand because this is about the third or fourth time i am repeating myself.
oh and by the way, there is now a Snapshot review of this MYG5 phone that you seem to love to hate so much, now over at Mobile Burn:
http://mobile.burn.com/review.jsp?Id=191
http://www.threegmobile.net/it...index13.html
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/August2002/3978.htm
HA! So now you can just admit that you do not like the phone and just leave it at that! It is a damn good phone but it simply doesn't suit YOUR own personal needs, that is all! Not every one is called Schnulli. Everyone is different. There are phones that you probably love that many others wouldn't be seen dead with. So give yourself a rest and quit harping on about it. Find something else to do in your life. There is simply NO POINT in you going ON, AND ON, AND ON, like ARISTON! You don't like it, then FINE!! end of story, No one forced you to buy! so just move on with your life now.
GOODBYE!
Anthony you can only get downloadable games if you get yourself an ORANGE sim card. that's where all the downloadable games are... on the orange website you will find the SAGEM GAMES ZONE.
http://www.orange-today.co.uk/fungames/
you need an orange sim card first, because the phone is a joint production between orange and sagem. get yourself an orange Pay As You Go simcard which only costs £10-£12, register it with orange, then go to the orange website for all the games and info on how to start downloading games directly to the phone...
click on the SAGEM GAMES ZONE link here:
http://www.orange-today.co.uk/...oadablegames
if you already have an orange sim card (either contract or payg), just hold down the 9 key and it will take you directly to the orange games downloads section on your phone, where you can download games like kung fu legend, mission 3d and IF racing etc. the latest game i have just seen made available for download is space war.
cheers.
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